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First of all, these were pro-Hamas demonstrations, not "pro-Palestinian," despite the lazy and biased framing of the media. Find one sign or one student in any of these protests denouncing Hamas. You can't, because they don't exist. And if you ask them, they all say the genocidal October 7 terrorist attack on civilians, including women, children and infants, was justifed or, at least, "understandable."

Second, the "I had a sniper rifle pointed at me" statement is unsubstantiated, highly suspect, and probably a lie, given the long pattern of behavior of the "Palestine" protestors in the West. The Herald-Times article does not substantiate that rifles were pointed at anyone. It indicates there were snipers on a rooftop, a decision of the Indiana State Police. Given they felt there was a possibility or threat of violence (my guess is "Globalize the Intifada" signs were present at the IU encampment), and that pro-Hamas protestors routinely engage in violence, an armed response is at least arguably justified and appears to be a law enforcement, not university, decision.

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[I'm not sure this will post properly. I no longer have access to any element of the string that involves comments by Kip -- I presume they have been removed and Kip banned.]

To answer your point Mr. Dornbrook, you're correct that a public university can use time, place, and manner policies to restrict speech. And, as you note, it cannot discriminate according to content. That is why the county prosecutor declined to pursue indictments against any demonstrators arrested by police on the day of the demonstration. The demonstrators were protesting in accordance with IU policies. (IU had attempted to change those policies the night before in order to restrict the pro-Palestinian demonstrators because of the substance of its speech, but it failed because it arbitrarily amended a document that was not a policy and was unaware of what document was the actual policy. You can read the sad details here: https://iubaaup.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/dunn_meadow_statement.pdf)

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