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John Edwards's avatar

Every criticism of this article is answered in the article itself! Either you believe in free speech or you don’t. I think what we are observing is cognitive dissonance amongst those who espouse a belief in free speech but love when their ideological enemies are punished for their public thought crimes.

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Andy G's avatar

“The censorship of noncitizens affects Americans, too. If international students and green-card holders have to censor themselves out of fear, we stand to lose many ideas as a result. Should John Oliver have been forced to censor his criticism of the Iraq War on The Daily Show before he became a U.S. citizen? Should British politician Nigel Farage have been prohibited from criticizing Joe Biden during last year’s Republican National Convention? Of course not, and Americans interested in hearing their perspectives would have been all the worse for it.”

You conflate freedom of speech with whether or not someone has the right to be in the U.S. on an ongoing, permanent basis.

People who are not citizens publicly arguing against the national interest, and speaking for the interests of known designated terrorist groups, do not have a right to continue to be here.

That you would prefer that policy is fine. But not only is that not a First Amendment issue, it is not a free speech issue.

Freedom to criticize the government is very different from freedom of non-citizens to agitate, advocate for and organize for groups that are opposed to the interest of the country.

Sleight of hand claiming that therefore non-citizens should have identical rights on speech as citizens is just that - sleight of hand.

But mostly, the claim that “we stand to lose many ideas” if we don’t let non-citizens remain in the U.S. to agitate against the interests of the U.S. is somewhere between laughable in terms of likelihood and a good thing if it came to pass.

The First Amendment indeed protects *Americans’* rights to say whatever they wish, at least in the political context.

It does not protect the right of non-citizens to agitate for foreign entities, let alone to actively engage in activities in support of designated terrorist groups.

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